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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-08-06 GMT: 06:26:59
To: Akudou
It is not really too late. Something can be done. The lousy fishing nearshore could be restored.
One way is to enforce the Zone 1 moratorium on fishing. This 3 mile zone would help rebuild the stock.
From: Capt Fred
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-08-04 GMT: 17:52:39
To: Latif
Too late for 10km range. The reasonable good light fishing spot off jerudong beach that i know off is like 30km away, anything closer and you might end up fishing from the shore.
Its a very big coral reef. Hope its not wipe away yet.
From: Akudou
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-08-04 GMT: 11:59:38
To: Capt
Yo Capt!

How is the letter and the petition coming along?

Doesn't have to be like Thailand with the 30km radius or like in the UAE where within 20km from shore is no net zone. Even 10km limit will greatly alleviate the current fish stock depleation.

We have to do something before its too late!

Ciao!

From: Latif
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-08-03 GMT: 04:24:29
To: Capt Fred + Lures
Fred,

Yes, sportfishermen are certainly not free of blame for overfishing and keeping undersized fish. I am as guilty of this as the next angler, but I have been releasing the undersized fish that I CATCH. As for my crew, well they're aall old school current and ex-commercial guys so its next to impossible to convince them otherwise.

The problem with undersized fish also relates to the areas that we are forced to fish in now...dep water, 300+ft makes it very very difficult to release the average baby Grouper or Kerisi Bali that you catch. I do deinflate their swim bladders and they see to happily swim down, but I guess its hard to figure out a better way for such small fish. As for sportfish like AJs and GTs... thats a different kettle of fish (pun intended). I used to say that in order for sportfish to be saved, the commercial nature of sportfishing must be able to support Catch and Release as a realistic business venture, i.e. that live fish have a better $$$ value than a dead one. BUT, over the last 2 years or so I had to rethink it as people and restaurants still seem to buy these fish at prices over $5 a kilo which makes it very hard to convince crews to release smaller or bigger fish (that get cut up and sold), plus the fact that smaller fish are often more sellable. Its not like the early 90s where you could basically not even give away bigger GTs in KB fish markets, 'cos they were so plentiful.

So we are in a Catch 22 situation, where the depletion of fish stocks and sportfish species has meant that demand for them has gone up and therefore C&R is less attractive to the crews. How do we overcome this?. Well, education on conservation is one step, but I think its too late for many of the older and current generation. The second is a properly thought out sportfishing strategy and the recognition that sportfishing with the right support, can be developed into a worthwhile tourism complementing industry. Third I guess is a fisheries management system that is inclusive of sportfishing as part of conservation measures and sustainable aquaculture to balance the demand for fish which currently outstrips local capacity by a pretty wide margin (just look in the pasar most days and figure out how much fish come from Sabah).

There's actually a lot that can be done, if the finance is available and the parties concerned can enforce conservationist measures practically. We also have to recognise that this is not an overnight endeavour. It will take probably 10-20 years to really realise the fruits of conservation, but it can be done. More artificial reefs that are made No Fishing areas, abandoned oil platforms bought over and recycled as huge FADs and bait catching areas, strict enforcement on commercial licensed operators, better aquaculture developent of local species like ungah and berahan with less emphasis on foreign species that grow faster but upset the ecological balance when they escape in the wild, proper sportfishing only areas with specific fads and artificial reefs catering to C&R angling only....

So many possibilities, I'm sure not all of them would work, but at least lets not discount our efforts by not trying.

Ok, enough of my rambling... As the saying goes; "Buih-Buih Mulut Saja".

Hey Lures, aiyaaa you know I don't fish as much anymore..... If got good spots only 15km or less from shore, then can find time to fish. The Dalak hunters are good for the fishing tackle business laaaaaa so keep showing those "Fich in Longkang" vids Fred....hehehehhehe...

Regards,

DFM
From: DFM
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-08-02 GMT: 02:18:01
To: DFM
Nicely written and factual. Not only the commercial fisheries group are to blame for the poor catch. A lot of sport fishermen are also overfishing and keeping everything.
From: Capt Fred
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-08-01 GMT: 19:17:29
To: DFM
Bro,
Long time no CR from you, quit fishing kah? This year my buddy all not going offshore all after dalak don't know why.
From: Lures
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-08-01 GMT: 12:45:50
To: DFM
SPOT ON!

You really hit all the right notes!



Ciao!
From: Latif
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-08-01 GMT: 09:12:59
To: Capt Fred
Sorry Fred,

Double post, please delete one.
From: DFM
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-08-01 GMT: 09:11:39
To: Capt Fred
The sole government agency responsible directly for fisheries enforcement is of course the Fisheries Department. So far I have been very underwhelmed by how they have practised fisheries management. Over the last 15 years, I have watched as we are forced to fish further and further offshore as the trawlers and longlines wiped out our normal inshore areas. I now fish an average of 60-80km offshore just to catch some snapper, ungah and grouper. In the 70's, I could catch these species from the shore or between Pilong and Muara.

Yes, teh authorities catch fishermen breaking the law by fishing at oil rigs (something which many countries permit and even promote), and just today you see that the marine police caught ONE pump boat that was fishing off Pilong. BUT for years and years (and still happening) we have seen Malaysian trawlers from both Labuan and Miri side wandering in at night to fish with impunity. I recall once where I was at a friends lawa-lawa at dusk and I watched 6 Malaysian trawlers come into our waters from Labuan. One trawler came close to us and checked us out to make sure we were not Fisheries or Police and when they saw us fishing as usual, they called in the rest of the fleet to hammer the lawa-lawa. As for pump boats, any fisherman that has fished out of Muara side will tell you that pump boats have been tunda our waters for at least the last decade or more and we finally caught ONE.

As for the licensed trawlers, do they keep to their zones????.... What a laugh. 2 Years ago I watched as the trawlers brought in their catch below Iron Duke and they discarded TONS of undersized fish that formed a slick kilomteres long of dead fish. In the late 90s I was diving off Pilong with a fisheries diver and we watched as a local trawler trawled not even 200m from our dive boat anchored off Pilong... What zone was that?. I even took pictures, but did anything happen to the trawler...NO.

So yes, enforcement is the core of how to manage our waters. If we can't even catch our foreign trawlers from Malaysia and enforce fisheries zones, how on earth can we effectively enforce marine park areas, fish size limits, off-season fishing etc etc?. We also seriously need to look into the destruction of mangroves as they represent the birthing place of so much of our sea life. There is actually so much we could do in our little patch of water.

As for our reefs, many years ago, there was plentiful reef and beautiful fish and coral off Pilong and Muara Beach round Tanjung Batu. It's 99% gone. Habana reef used to be a wondrous place and now its just a flat ground down patch of broken coral pieces and fragments that have been destroyed by trawlers.

Fisheries knows about all this. Their people fish too, and regularly, and they dive too. I just wish the Director of Fisheries was an angler or diver. Maybe then they would prioritise the protection of our waters more and gain a better understanding of how badly our fisheries have been damaged.
From: DFM
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-08-01 GMT: 09:11:08
To: Capt Fred
The sole government agency responsible directly for fisheries enforcement is of course the Fisheries Department. So far I have been very underwhelmed by how they have practised fisheries management. Over the last 15 years, I have watched as we are forced to fish further and further offshore as the trawlers and longlines wiped out our normal inshore areas. I now fish an average of 60-80km offshore just to catch some snapper, ungah and grouper. In the 70's, I could catch these species from the shore or between Pilong and Muara.

Yes, teh authorities catch fishermen breaking the law by fishing at oil rigs (something which many countries permit and even promote), and just today you see that the marine police caught ONE pump boat that was fishing off Pilong. BUT for years and years (and still happening) we have seen Malaysian trawlers from both Labuan and Miri side wandering in at night to fish with impunity. I recall once where I was at a friends lawa-lawa at dusk and I watched 6 Malaysian trawlers come into our waters from Labuan. One trawler came close to us and checked us out to make sure we were not Fisheries or Police and when they saw us fishing as usual, they called in the rest of the fleet to hammer the lawa-lawa. As for pump boats, any fisherman that has fished out of Muara side will tell you that pump boats have been tunda our waters for at least the last decade or more and we finally caught ONE.

As for the licensed trawlers, do they keep to their zones????.... What a laugh. 2 Years ago I watched as the trawlers brought in their catch below Iron Duke and they discarded TONS of undersized fish that formed a slick kilomteres long of dead fish. In the late 90s I was diving off Pilong with a fisheries diver and we watched as a local trawler trawled not even 200m from our dive boat anchored off Pilong... What zone was that?. I even took pictures, but did anything happen to the trawler...NO.

So yes, enforcement is the core of how to manage our waters. If we can't even catch our foreign trawlers from Malaysia and enforce fisheries zones, how on earth can we effectively enforce marine park areas, fish size limits, off-season fishing etc etc?. We also seriously need to look into the destruction of mangroves as they represent the birthing place of so much of our sea life. There is actually so much we could do in our little patch of water.

As for our reefs, many years ago, there was plentiful reef and beautiful fish and coral off Pilong and Muara Beach round Tanjung Batu. It's 99% gone. Habana reef used to be a wondrous place and now its just a flat ground down patch of broken coral pieces and fragments that have been destroyed by trawlers.

Fisheries knows about all this. Their people fish too, and regularly, and they dive too. I just wish the Director of Fisheries was an angler or diver. Maybe then they would prioritise the protection of our waters more and gain a better understanding of how badly our fisheries have been damaged.
From: DFM
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-09 GMT: 08:55:10
To: Languran
Exactly. I am glad that the response for this suggestion is coming in.
From: Capt Fred
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-09 GMT: 08:28:53
To: cpt fred
i'm in... not to forget to research of what happen in other country whereby the sportfisher operator get stable income through charter rather than catch for sale.
From: Languran
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-08 GMT: 10:25:30
To: lumba-lumba
dont forget me..
From: ikanbilis
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-08 GMT: 10:25:03
To: rickster
we tooooo...
From: lumba-lumba
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-08 GMT: 10:24:36
To: dolphins
count me in.....
From: rickster
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-08 GMT: 10:23:53
To: Junaidi
i will sign up tooooo..
From: dolphins
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-07 GMT: 02:32:36
To: Lures
As a Journalist, I am definitely in. How do you all want to go around this?
From: Junaidi
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-06 GMT: 05:54:51
To: Capt Fred
Withdraw impossible, limit them no pukat within 30KM maybe(like Thailand) but still back to square one, mana enforcement?
From: Lures
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-06 GMT: 00:37:52
To: Capt Fred
I AM IN!


From: Latif
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-06 GMT: 00:36:23
To: dolphins & All
Yes, that is certainly no good. So let's do something. Let's brainstorm on what can be done to improve and preserve our marine ecosystem.

Let's use this thread to start off on ideas on what can be done and build on it.

I will start off.

1. Write to the Minister of MIPR to withdraw all trawler licences. Support this by a petition consisting of signatures signed with name and IC No. by anglers and concerned parties.

From: Capt Fred
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-05 GMT: 14:17:26
To: Capt Fred
Try to spend sometime down to KB and you can see this group of people with a 10,000 feet "PUKAT" use to harvest d little onesssssssss huhuhuhuhuhuhu...it was mention many times in this forum that all of us "sportsfishermen" must unite and boldly inform the "right people - minster or whoever can start implementing this rules and regualtions on fishing along the shore lines and not to mention accross the economic fishing zone of our beloved country Brunei....Sooner or later even drop offfffff will be out offffff fish to hook arrrround....
Capt why not call for a forum and talks with the authorities concern. At the same time you can promote your fishing activities to the public not to mention all of those fishing tackle store onwers.
If we dont act - sooner were "GONE FISHING"...
From: dolphins
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-05 GMT: 07:59:29
To: Latif
I agree with you on having more controls to preserve our marine ecosystem. I was at the function where Dato Hamdilah gave his speech on the Biodiversities of Marine lifes in Brunei. He is right in saying that our coral reefs are still pretty intact.

What was mentioned many times in that seminar was that we are overfished in the big fish area. We only have very small fish left in our coral reefs.
Small fish like Clown Fish (Nemo) are still plentiful but fish like groupers or snapper over 1kg is lacking.

From: Capt Fred
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-04 GMT: 12:40:35
To: Latif
Of course UNEXPLOITED, if he said the opposite, the money will come out mah. Where got they want to spend money in this matter, selfish one. They rather do nothing about it.

Ask he go tangkap ikan, better ask if fish can fly.

He go pasar see many ikan-ikan big size, of course lah "UNEXPLOITED" hahahaha.......
From: Q
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Title: Sustainable Fishing Date: 2009-05-04 GMT: 08:49:35
To: ALL
Just about last week, Dato Hamdilah was praising the local fishing industry. In his speach, he even mentioned that the Brunei Sea is basically still UNEXPLOITED!!!!!! This is very much the opposite to what we all are experiencing here...whereby the natural fish stock are quite scarce and almost depleated due to the LACK OF ENFORCEMENT and EDUCATION!!!!!!

Would strongly suggest for him to go and try to catch a considerably godd size fish....maybe then he will realise how bad the current situation is as opposed to just making comments on something which he is totally UNAWARE of.

I am totally against the practice of keeping juvenile fishes. They should be thrown back and let to grow bigger so that our future generations will have a chance to experience and enjoy fishing using rod, reel and line....of cause with the corresponding lures....(NOT the KARATE KING! :) )

I wonder how can we try to wake up all the corresponding authorities from their (EVER CONTINUOUS) slumber...so that they can start educating as well as enforcing all the already present ruling(s).

Better still, there should be some sort restricted open seasons for those fish which are on the endangered list.....just like what is being practiced by other countries. As I had mentioned earlier, we should only keep just enough for the pot as opposed to just keeping on keeping all that we catch...as if there is no tomorrow!!!!!

If we don't start such an initiative, there will hardly be any fish left.....for sportfishing....let alone to eat!!!!

Ciao!
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